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02/18/2009

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Geoff hewitt

They should loose everything besides they don't need money in jail it's contraband...thier rules...? make a new currency based on humanity profiting for a change.

marco saba

(ticket money - like sovereign state notes - don't carry any public debt!)

Chinese offered consumer tickets - By Olivia Chung, Asia Times, Feb 14, 2009
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/China_Business/KB14Cb01.html
The local government issued 100 million yuan worth of coupons for low-income families before the lunar new year, an important two-week holiday which this year ran from January 26. Sales of Hangzhou-made home appliances doubled during the holiday period compared with the same period last year, according to local officials. Four big shopping malls received 1.52 million yuan worth of coupons, redeemed against 5.4 million yuan worth of goods, one said. A 65-year-old Hangzhou native named Zhang said he and his family used coupons worth 300 yuan at a supermarket on January 24 when the coupons took effect, buying traditional coats and ingredients for the New Year's Eve dinner - an important reunion occasion for families. The city's senior Communist Party official Wang Guoping told a conference this month that local civil servants might receive part of their wages in shopping vouchers, according to a Metropolitan Express report on February 9.
"They are to receive about 5% to 10% of their wages in the form of shopping vouchers," Wang was quoted as saying. The mayor and Wang "will take the lead and all civil servants will follow", he said

Miriam

Mortimer~ I agree that the gold standard is not the way to go...it would remain a control issue.
Gold value is still determined by the market...and those who control it.
These were the opinions of Rayelyn on Rumor Mill...I should have made that clearer. ;>

She is a monarchist; I don't quite get her, but she feels the bankers have ruined the kings and queens and they want their land back...they are the ones who can oversee the world best...BLAH!! That is not my cup of tea! But I thought her insights were interesting.

I have discussions about how this could turn out, if it is true that the Fed is crashing...will it be the NWO? Will it be some other Benevolent Dictator? Will it be no interest Treasury script or Greenbacks as in the days of the Colonies and Lincoln?
But in the USA we need to be free of the Bank Act and all that goes with it!

With Ben saying that the Elites are not likely to go for Plan #3, I don't know what to think...
Thanks for responding to me! ;>

My apologies Ben for pestering you with questions about this!

朱鷺

アメロ、ユーロ、元の3極体制なんて最近言われてますけど、はっきり言って、駄目です。最悪です。金本位制も、最近、駄目だと思うようになりました。金に価値があるということの根拠がボケてます。労働力と、金の価値はまったく別の価値だと思います。僕は、江戸時代まで続いた日本の何万石っていう、米の生産高を基準にした考えはとても優れていたような気がします。
^^^^^
言われていることが正しいとしても、それを如何実現していけるのかが問題です。
なぜ三つの体制に最近言われるようになったのかはそれを企画している人がいるのです。

私には新しい通貨体制をつくる力は全くありません。金融の仕組みに関しては反ロスのホームページを参考にされるとまた違ったことも言われるかもしれません。

お金に支配されない生活を皆がするようになるのが手っ取り早い方法かもしれません。

Ken

Ben, do you know what happened to the Japanese finance minister? Did anyone possibly put a poison in his drink?

Mortimer

@Miriam
I don't think there will be a gold standard because that means a serious limitation to the growth of economiy and warfare. The amount of money would be relative stabile. Another thing is that the USA statistically has the biggest reserves of gold in the world. They have gold also from the german Bundesbank and gold debts to Germany which are now for unknown reasons not repayable. There are rumours about having stored the gold under the Twin Towers-, then 09/11 came...

I don't think Asia could have referring to the bewanted economic growth and the mentioned gold-reserves of the USA any vital interest for a gold-based currency!

I was talking about the satellites and the nuclear subs crashes... were it a demonstration of the powers of the 'good aliens' vs. the 'bad reptile ones'? 8-)

There was one more remarkable crash. I mean the one of the 'drunken'(?) finance minister of Japan, right in timeof the Clinton-visit to his homeland.... Hmmmm, what to make with this?

-> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg7zm3O4PgE&feature=related

Bix Weir

There is a 4th answer to the currency problem that may be too obvious to mention...gold and silver under strict observance of the US constitution. Global monetary systems are a fraud. This was always the masterplan as implemented under Alan Greenspan and friends with computer market rigging programs he invented in the 1970's.

Remember, fiat money is an illusion created by the money changers. When the illusion is broken it cannot be replaced by another illusion. The US will soon default on any US Dollar fiat obligations around the world (watch for the derivative collapse). This will imeadiately end trade and "Golbalization" thus forfeiting all assets held in other countries. All US troops abroad will be recalled and redeployed to protect the US borders. Illegal aliens will be forced out of the country. Every country around the world will be left to determine their own monetary system and utilize their own natural resources.

Hopefully this will transpire peacefully as the war machine is too expensive to run on a sound money system.

Over the years trade will resume and a grand lesson will be learned the hard way...sound money is the only answer.

Miriam

I used a language tool for translation.
I hope it works and makes sense! ;>


私は、日本の視聴者に提供しています。

うわさの出所ニュース投稿者:
グエムル-漢江の怪物"派2 "の言語にベンのメッセージだ。
これらの彼女の意見がある。
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=141518
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フルフォードのRayelanの翻訳!

マイ( Rayelan )コメント大文字になる

: 1つは、計画されている長いAmero噂。の考えではない
と:団結カナダの資源とメキシコの安い労働力
:米国。この計画は、多くの致命的な欠点があります。まず第一になるの
:カナダの主権をせずに一方的に距離を取る
:コンサルティングは、カナダの人々 。多くのアメリカ人もいない
:メキシコでの仕事のハンバーガーをひっくり返すことに対抗したい。
:さらに、この計画を一ドルの取引のための呼び出し
: 10 Ameroセントは巨大な切り下げになる
:変装。これは、ドル保有を切り下げる
:外国人とその借金をreneging 、米国ということになる。

私のソースは、ノーとAMEROれて死んだも扉爪によると2年! !エリートのCANないため革命なく...うち今すぐ好きな景気刺激法案を右入れ方です。

:別の計画をするのには強力な派閥に押されて
: 300の特別委員会のすべてを終わらせるよう呼びかけている
:金融ゾーン。このことを意味する地下金融
:世界(私たちにeuphemismsやプライベートエクイティなどで知られている
で統一されるだろう:ヘッジファンド)は、公的金融
:世界の(すべての偽の番号が発行腐敗
: IMFとのFRBのような機関) 。

と思うこれは正しいです...私はためらうので私はもちろん彼は財務ゾーンに何参照。はい... 2つの派閥のメンバー300の委員会を参照する。

このグループにも
:地球のための資金を調達する計画だが統帥
:いいかもね。

この部分はTRUEです

:この計画のメリットがありますが、昔と同じことになる
:戦争でコントロールして詐欺師mongering 。

必ずしも...私たちは真実と和解裁判所ていないにもかかわらず...

また、世界の
:マフィアと他の怪しげなグループの事業から撤退することと
:以来、彼らは非常に危険な人々がされていません
:そうせずに、この承認するための新しい手段を与えている
:生活を得る。

世界ナンバーワンのマフィアロンドンの街です...イタリアのマフィアと薬物ギャングマフィアだけでオリジナルとの競争している。

どうやって学習する新しい生活にもう何もないと...マフィアと呼ばれるのSOクンの多くはロンドンの街を運んでくれる派閥2無意識の作業している...元マフィアであり最大の世界の詐欺師。その薬領主、腕ディーラーや旧マフィアDONSできませんちらつきもロンドンと悪を持っ完了するシティ...審理で始まるに一致ホールド!

:ドルとユーロの取引が行われた3番目のプランを呼び出す
:新しい取引通貨への外国人。これは通貨と
:すべての人に透明な形で発行される
:国。を実行している人は世界の人々
:印刷機は、ドルとユーロが強く反対しています
:この計画には、権力を失うことになります。

はい...これはThe計画の一つは...とはい、彼はこの上で右...

エリートしない場合は、この1 。残念でした。エリートとは一切、この件に関して相談されている。

3つの外国為替取引で現在計画されている...と彼らに起こるかどうかのようにG7のオレゴンG20オレゴン...これらの団体は、既に死亡されますが1日目国のリーグのLIKE記憶される。

ロシア、中国、イスラム教徒のカリフは、急速に形成しないで、ロンドンの死亡市、 IMFは、米連邦準備理事会または誰でも旧エリートの承認が必要に関連付けられています。

そしてゴールドを持っている印刷機...と私は疑いを持っすべての準備に進みます。

実際、私は理解を持っなぜその新通貨導入は、これまでのところ。世界そこゴールドマネー分を実現しています... FEDは注意事項として価値のない反対に...彼ら大挙してドルを放棄する。

オバマ氏が唯一の希望社長戻るれた金で、ドルは...と彼がいるわけではなく、連邦準備理事会限り存在。

それから彼は彼と彼のゴールドディスクはFRBを廃止することができますしている。

:もし、中国やロシア、ドイツ、イスラム諸国行った
:今後、新たな通貨は一方的に発表した
: Satanists人のいずれかがあると英仏の世界を支配
:新しい通貨と一緒に行くか、または、それぞれの社会を見
:混乱と革命に陥る。

これは、多かれ少なかれにTRUE ...フルフォード実際にはほとんどの人は実現しない-英仏の接続が行われた....誰もが考えている、英語とフランスは互いに嫌い...イギリスとフランスシャム双生児...ロンドンの両方を支配するシティ...

忘れず...ロンドンの街はフランスの植民地支援のための王室罰せ...その後、フランスの社会主義をとっていたフランス人から今まで一度達成したフランスの偉大されているフォームにプッシュ...ロンドンのフランスの町のスレーブ洗脳...これには、イギリスのようなもの...アメリカ人は、以下のいずれかの二国よりも自由なだけ。フランスを信じ彼らに世界のエリートですLULLED ...しかし、彼らはエリートの...意味がない!

:新しい通貨を受け入れるとの交換では、一部の米国およびその他の
:国の借金を帳消しにできるいくつかの交換
:持分。

はい...これは正しいです...しかし... ... 1つの大きなポイントが見つからない....

米国が金ドル背景を持つ機会を提供される。オバマ氏と民主党代表会議を投げると、 FRBはドルの方と一緒にゴールド....すべての負債アメリカ国内で消える...私達は再びフレッシュ以上...と大恐慌せて起こる。

これはそれらの国は、再起動できるように
:経済となるが信じられないほど才能のある人々に戻る
:仕事。また、この計画のためのマーシャルプランの通話
:惑星の貧困、戦争や環境までを対象
: 3年以内に破壊。

はい...この部分は完全にTRUE ....

:日本でも日銀の制御を取り戻す必要がある。
:これに進出できるよう、日本の投資が再び
:自分の国では自分の貯金は、巨大な作成
:ブーム。

はい...これは、 TRUEをすぎる...そのうちだろうと人々についての真実を知る日本、なぜ彼らは戦いに勝って降伏したのでした...事実と...戦争に勝ついたのかもしれないわ...視界にたくさん日本の歴史は...一度のFRBメンバーは死んでいる...日本の歴史家たちはその隠された秘密を共有する。

:どのような場合には、長い上にじっと試合としては、金融
:システムでは、引き続き世界の実体経済が
:機能不全に陥るを続けている。おそらく、中国の
:もささやかれている。

はい...中国もささやかれている。彼らステッププレートに必要とするかは、彼らに何が必要な残りの世界を教えて下さい。オバマ氏は自分の考えている社長のIF再生キスが好きな管理が直面するからといって中国と中国語に堪能TREAS SECのHISは起こっている...彼は別のシンクしている。

しない限り、社長オバマパラダイムだけを望んでいる死ぬ財務指導の充実によっては夢のMISBEGOTTON共産主義を守るために...彼は小さな噂ニュースを学び、世界についての事実の詳細が必要です。

が一番大事なことは学ぶ必要がある都市であるロンドンの投資家と共産主義の両方を作成...もし彼が他のものより、よりよいものとされていると考えている...私がアフュー私を売りたい橋だ。

自分の理解は、米国*** ***作成さは、資本主義国だったのニーズ...ロンドンとした米国企業の所有者への資本主義国の都市...

自由企業も変わっから資本主義というものです。

すべての米国民を公正な活動の場です...リトルは、人々は世界のすべてのいかなるしたい。

デッキに対する米国のための積上げすぐ世紀ロンドンの街が...とIMOの...クロールのITへのLAIRS戻るて出て行くアメリカだけで数千年のトカゲ貴族の時間だ。

参考...地球のエリート知っているリアル所有者戻ってき...と少年はエリートリザード領主マッドている彼ら!

Miriam

From RUMOR MILL NEWS:
The Host puts Ben's message into "Faction 2" language.
These are her opinions.
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=141518
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Rayelan's Translation of Fulford!
MY(Rayelan) COMMENTS WILL BE IN CAPS

: One of the plans is the long rumored Amero. The idea is to
: unite Canadian resources and Mexican cheap labour with the
: US. This plan has many fatal flaws. First of all it would
: unilaterally take away Canadian sovereignty without
: consulting the Canadian people. Many Americans also do not
: want to compete with Mexicans for jobs flipping hamburgers.
: Furthermore, this plan calls for trading one US dollar for
: 10 Amero cents which would be a huge devaluation in
: disguise. This would devalue the dollar holdings of
: foreigners and would mean the US reneging on its debts.

ACCORDING TO MY SOURCES THE NAU AND THE AMERO HAVE BEEN DEAD AS DOOR NAILS FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW!! THE ELITE CAN'T DO THIS WITHOUT A REVOLUTION... THE LIKES OF WHICH IS BREWING RIGHT NOW OVER THE STIMULUS BILL.

: A different plan now being pushed by a powerful faction in the
: committee of 300 is calling for an end to all special
: financial zones. This would mean the underground financial
: world (known to us by euphemisms such as private equity or
: hedge funds) would be united with the public financial
: world (all those fake numbers issued by corrupt
: institutions like the IMF and the Fed).

I THINK THIS IS CORRECT... I HESITATE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT HE'S REFERRING TO AS FINANCIAL ZONES. YES... MEMBERS OF FACTION TWO ALSO MAKE UP THE COMMITTEE OF 300.

This group also
: wants to finance a Marshal plan for the planet earth which
: would be great.

THIS PART IS TRUE

: This plan has its merits but it would leave the same old
: war-mongering crooks in control.

NOT NECESSARILY... WE STILL HAVE THE TRUTH AND RECONCILIATION COURTS...

Furthermore, the world’s
: Mafias and other shady groups would be put out of business
: and since they are very dangerous people they are not
: likely to accept this without being given a new way of
: earning a living.

THE WORLD'S NUMBER ONE MAFIA IS THE CITY OF LONDON... THE ITALIAN MAFIA AND THE DRUG GANGS ARE JUST IN COMPETITION WITH THE ORIGINAL MAFIA.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LEARNING HOW TO MAKE A NEW LIVING... MANY OF THE SO CALLED MAFIA ARE UNKNOWINGLY WORKING WITH FACTION TWO TO BRING DOWN THE CITY OF LONDON AKA... THE ORIGINAL MAFIA AND THE BIGGEST CROOKS IN THE WORLD. THE DRUG LORDS, ARMS DEALERS AND OLD MAFIA DONS CAN'T EVEN HOLD A FLICKERING MATCH TO THE CITY OF LONDON AND THE EVILS THEY HAVE DONE...STARTING WITH THE INQUISITION!!

: A third plan calls for trading dollars and Euros held by
: foreigners into a new trading currency. This currency would
: be issued in a manner transparent to all people and
: countries. The people who have been running the world with
: their dollar and Euro printing presses are strongly opposed
: to this plan because it would mean losing power.

YES... THIS IS ONE OF THE PLANS... AND YES, HE'S RIGHT ON THIS ONE...

THE ELITE DO NOT WANT THIS ONE. TOO BAD. THE ELITE ARE NOT BEING CONSULTED ON ANY OF THIS.

THERE ARE THREE TRADING CURRENCIES PLANNED AT THE MOMENT... AND THEY WILL HAPPEN WHETHER OR NOT THE G7 OR G20 LIKE IT OR NOT... THESE ARE ALREADY DYING ORGANIZATIONS THAT WILL ONE DAY BE REMEMBERED LIKE THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS.

RUSSIA, CHINA AND THE RAPIDLY FORMING MUSLIM CALIPHATE DON'T NEED THE APPROVAL OF THE DYING CITY OF LONDON, THE IMF, THE FEDERAL RESERVE OR ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE OLD ELITE.

THEY HAVE THE GOLD AND THEY HAVE THE PRINTING PRESSES... AND I SUSPECT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING READY TO GO.

IN FACT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVEN'T INTRODUCED THEIR NEW CURRENCY SO FAR. THE MINUTE THE WORLD REALIZES THERE IS GOLD BACKED MONEY... AS OPPOSED TO WORTHLESS FED NOTES... THEY WILL ABANDON THE DOLLAR IN DROVES.

THE ONLY HOPE PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS IS TO BACK THE DOLLAR WITH GOLD... AND HE CAN'T DO THAT AS LONG AS THE FEDERAL RESERVE EXISTS.

HE HAS TO ABOLISH THE FED AND THEN HE CAN HAVE HIS GOLD.

: If China and Russia and Germany and the Islamic countries went
: ahead and unilaterally announced a new currency the
: Satanists who rule the Anglo-French world would either have
: to go along with the new currency or watch their societies
: degenerate into chaos and revolution.

THIS IS MORE OR LESS TRUE... FULFORD ACTUALLY MADE A CONNECTION THAT MOST PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE -- ANGLO-FRENCH.... EVERYONE THINKS THE ENGLISH AND THE FRENCH HATE EACH OTHER... ENGLAND AND FRANCE ARE SIAMESE TWINS... BOTH RULED BY THE CITY OF LONDON...

REMEMBER... THE CITY OF LONDON PUNISHED THE ROYAL FAMILY OF FRANCE FOR AIDING THE COLONISTS... THEY THEN PUSHED A FORM OF SOCIALISM ON FRANCE THAT HAS KEPT FRENCH PEOPLE FROM EVER ACHIEVING THE GREATNESS FRANCE ONCE HAD... THE FRENCH ARE THE BRAINWASHED SLAVES OF THE CITY OF LONDON... JUST LIKE THE BRITISH ARE... AMERICANS ARE FREER THAN EITHER OF THESE TWO COUNTRIES. THE FRENCH ARE LULLED INTO BELIEVING THEY ARE THE ELITE OF THE WORLD... BUT WHAT THEY SEE AS ELITE... IS MEANINGLESS!

: In exchange for accepting a new currency, some US and other
: countries debt could be written off and some exchanged for
: equity.

YES... THIS IS CORRECT... BUT... ONE MAJOR POINT IS MISSING....

THE US WILL BE OFFERED THE OPPORTUNITY OF HAVING A GOLD BACKED DOLLAR. IF PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATIC CONGRESS THROW OUT THE FED AND BACK THE DOLLAR WITH GOLD .... ALL DEBTS IN THE UNITED STATES WILL VANISH... WE WILL START OVER AGAIN FRESH... AND THE DEPRESSION WILL NOT HAPPEN.

This would allow those countries to reboot their
: economies and get their incredibly talented people back to
: work. This plan also calls for a Marshal plan for the
: planet aimed at ending poverty, war and environmental
: destruction within 3 years.

YES... THIS PART IS COMPLETELY TRUE....

: Japan also needs to take back control of the Bank of Japan.
: Doing this would allow the Japanese to once again invest
: their own savings in their own country, creating a huge
: boom.

YES... THIS IS TRUE TOO... AND ONE OF THESE DAYS PEOPLE WILL KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT JAPAN, AND WHY THEY SURRENDERED WHEN THEY COULD HAVE WON THE WAR... AND IN FACT... MAYBE THEY DID WIN THE WAR... THERE IS MUCH HIDDEN JAPANESE HISTORY... MAYBE ONCE THE FED IS DEAD... JAPANESE HISTORIANS WILL SHARE THEIR HIDDEN SECRET.

: In any case, as long as the staring match over the financial
: system continues, the real economy of the world will
: continue to plunge into dysfunction. Perhaps the Chinese
: are being too modest.

YES... THE CHINESE ARE BEING TOO MODEST. THEY NEED TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE AND TELL THE REST OF THE WORLD WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. IF PRESIDENT OBAMA THINKS THAT HIS ADMIN IS GOING TO PLAY KISSY FACE WITH THE CHINESE JUST BECAUSE HIS SEC TREAS SPEAKS FLUENT CHINESE... HE'S GOT ANOTHER THING COMING.

UNLESS PRESIDENT OBAMA WANTS TO HANG ON TO A DYING FINANCIAL PARADIGM ONLY FOR THE SAKE OF FULFILLING SOME MISBEGOTTEN COMMUNIST DREAM OF HIS MENTORS... HE NEEDS TO READ A LITTLE MORE OF RUMOR MILL NEWS AND LEARN THE TRUTH ABOUT THE WORLD.

THE MAIN THING HE NEEDS TO LEARN IS THE CITY OF LONDON CREATED BOTH CAPITALISTS AND COMMUNISTS... AND IF HE THINKS ONE IS ANY BETTER THAN THE OTHER... I'VE GOT A FEW BRIDGES I WANT TO SELL.

HE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE UNITED STATES WAS ***NOT*** CREATED AS A CAPITALIST COUNTRY... THE CITY OF LONDON AND THE CORPORATIONS THEY OWN MADE THE U.S. INTO A CAPITALIST COUNTRY...

FREE ENTERPRISE IS A LOT DIFFERENT FROM CAPITALISM.

ALL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT IS A FAIR PLAYING FIELD... THAT'S ALL ANY OF THE LITTLE PEOPLE OF THE WORLD WANT.

THE CITY OF LONDON HAS STACKED THE DECK AGAINST ALL OF US FOR CENTURIES NOW... AND IMO... IT'S TIME FOR THE LIZARD LORDS TO CRAWL BACK INTO THEIR LAIRS AND LEAVE US ALONE FOR A FEW THOUSAND YEARS.

FYI... THE ELITE KNOW THE REAL OWNERS OF THE EARTH ARE COMING BACK... AND BOY ARE THEY MAD AT THE ELITE LIZARD LORDS!!

G O H!

過剰な信用創造システムとそれに連なる付加価値創造と言う欺瞞に満ちた産業構造の是正が必要だと思う。
それには抑制されてきた真知識・技術が公開されなければならない。
公開されると悪者が公に晒される事になるから旨く行かないのだろう・・・
ソフトランディング過ぎてまた歴史を繰返せばやがて自滅の道を辿るにも関わらず・・・
マネーゲームのプレーヤーもディーラーもカジノオーナーもこの期に及んで保身とは・・・
こういう面で保守的なのは悪者の往生際の悪さ所以で今昔変わらない。
事の成り行きでヤリ場の行く末を見守れば演出なのかどうかはっきりするでしょう。

HJ

3rd plan would be great. I would be happy to participate in poverty ending plan.
Ben
What about technologies that has been hidden?? what is new in that field?

Mortimer

Stephen Jen, currency chief at Morgan Stanley, said Eastern Europe has borrowed 1,7 trillion dollar abroad, much on short-term maturities. It must repay 400 billion dollar this year, equal to a third of the region's GDP. The unfolding debt-drama in Russia, Ukraine, and the EU-states of Eastern Europe has meanwhile reached an red alert mayday point....: Failure to save East Europe could lead to a worldwide meltdown.

-> http://www.thedailycrux.com/content/952/Russia

This is reason enough to reckon with a currency reform.

I think it will get interesting from summer 2009 on. Latest in autumn 2009 it is no mistake to have changed savings into real values like for best an own house or other immovables.

The first visit of foreign minister Clinton was in Asia, what clearly points out that Asia is factor nunber one with whom the USA have to deal with.

By the way: Isn't it remarkable when in a very short period two incredible accidents have been taken place. I mean the collision of an US-satellite with a russian one and the crash of french and british nuclear subs.
The chance so they say is 1 : 1.000.000 but I am sure that this is underestimated.

I realy cannot imagine what those 'happenings' mean if there is a deeper meaning anyway. Maybe someone else has an idea.

Miriam

Thank you Ben, for further explaining what is going on.
No matter how much I read, I know I am not getting the real story.
Others give bits and pieces in code or mixed with a hefty dose of disinfo.
So I come here for the truth.
With Clinton and soon Geithner headed to China for "discussions" perhaps the Chinese will finally lay down the law~ albeit in their modest and politely diplomatic manner~ and make it clear that the new currency is how it will be.

What will it take? The forces are moving against the elite with serious unrest in their countries, and new military and economic links announced between Russia and Iran. http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8711271110
And China has ties there too.
Hillary says she is going to discuss similar agreements(no doubt code for exactly the type of talks you are referring to), so just maybe that is the breaking point.
Speaking of Asia, she stated~ "It demonstrates clearly that our new administration wants to focus a lot of time and energy in working with Asian partners and all the nations in the Pacific region," she said, "because we know that so much of our future depends upon our relationships there."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/15/us.clinton.asia.trip/index.html

This third plan is what we all need to start hearing about in the news. The overwhelming public support would be tremendous.
But that is not possible until the fever of this illness is broken.

The World cannot wait much longer without great loss to everyone.

Glad you are continuing to heal and are feeling well.

M

どんな結果になるかわかりませんけど、フェアトレードの概念が無いのなら、どうなっても意味が無いと思いますよ。

その土地の通貨はその土地で消費されないと、本来無い価値が価値を持ち、不平等が生まれます。

アメロ、ユーロ、元の3極体制なんて最近言われてますけど、はっきり言って、駄目です。最悪です。金本位制も、最近、駄目だと思うようになりました。金に価値があるということの根拠がボケてます。労働力と、金の価値はまったく別の価値だと思います。僕は、江戸時代まで続いた日本の何万石っていう、米の生産高を基準にした考えはとても優れていたような気がします。

僕は、貨幣の流通を活発にするよりも、貨幣の規制を強くして、もっと人間自体をボーダーフリーにしたほうが、その土地にあるべき価値が公平にその土地土地に保全されるような気がします。

富を得るために、他の土地から吸い上げると言う発想は辞めたほうがいいと思います。輸出が沈んで意気消沈している現状から学ぶべきだと思うのですけど。僕たちが輸出で儲けてウハウハしている間にも、泣いていた弱い国の人々がいたわけです。全くの不可抗力ではありましたけれども、これからはそういう事も考えたほうがいいと思います。

ジョンケイcaesar

こんにちは、元気になりましたか?
副島隆彦&佐藤優の対論会で、二つの疑問を持ちました。佐藤優はMI6は存在しないと言い、副島はオバマ婦人は素晴らしいとべた褒めでした。あれほど米国が解っていると舞い上がっているのに、オバマもブッシュもチェイニーも皆血は交えてないって事解らないのかなあ〜?それとも本を売りたいだけなのかなあ?それともあっち側って言うだけナノだろうか?

その意味では、「金融の仕組みはロスチャイルドが作った」の著者にも疑問あり。あとがきを読むと、この人はロスチャイルドをけなしておきながらも戦術には肯定的と言うより賞賛的に感じる。本人はどうやら生き延びて羊になれると思っている。 ロスの企みは、全て人道を外れている事を認めて、その上で書いた本かと思っていた。気をつけよう。ベンジャミンの性格の良さは保証出来るが、奴らは適当に成功した広告塔をいつも探しているし、見つけたら、簡単に術に納める。特に情にモロい人間はターゲットになりやすい。この辺に気をつけて下さい。

ベテラン研究家の意見は取り入れる必要多いにあると思います。今、敵と味方をきっちり見分けないと、我々いとも簡単に殺されます。

Janis Winer

Thank you so much for keeping us posted with a sane, informed view fo the current situation.
There is nowhere else I know I can get this information.
Thank you.

Frank Bauer

P.S. to my post above:

All predictions on this subject say that this mentioned re-unification of central Europe under a new Kaiser will be completely voluntary and non-national. People will want this! And people here means both the individual (Mensch) as well as the group (Volk).

There will be no more national states as we know them today and especially no more “ethnically purified” national states, which are most unnatural anyway.

Just to make this clear.

Repha

中国は攻勢に打って出るべきだ。

レインボー通貨に英仏が反対しているというのは笑い草である。
連中はイルミナを通じて世界単一通貨の発行を目指していると思っていたのだが。

ベンジャミンさんには独自の情報網があるのでそれを我々一般人に公開していらっしゃる点が尊敬できますが世界財閥と戦わないというのはいただけません。

日本銀行を国有化するというのはまさに私の考えと一致するものです。ブログにも再三書いてきました。連中は失われた10年の元凶ですからね。

とにかく、変革が起こるなら早く起こってほしい。貨幣制度全廃運動もいい機運にさしかかっている・・・。

朱鷺

悪魔と手を組んだ人々の世界支配は何世紀にも渡っています。そのシステムが疲弊を起こしていますが、救いは自覚した人々の行動と勇気によるでしょう。

アジアでは以前にベンさんが最も信頼する政治家と言った事のあるマハティール前マレーシア首相がしっかりとした意見を持っているのではないでしょうか?

一井の人間にはどうすることも出来ない課題ですので多くの人に知ってもらいたい提案ではないでしょうか?

The world rule of people who cooperated with the satan extends for the century of how many. The system has caused poverty. The world changes only by the action and the courage of people who understand satan's world rule.

It might have the opinion that Prime Minister Malaysia was steady Mahathir ahead of calling before a politician whom Ben trusts most in Asia before.

It is a problem that Ichii's man cannot do very. As for Ben's proposal, I want a lot of people to learn.

mul

貿易用の通貨というものも結局は世界統一通貨同様のものでしかなく
例え第三の案が通ったとしても
世界金融資本家たちのシナリオ通りなのでは。

Frank Bauer

I think neither of what you mentioned will happen. A new system will not be constructed except from chaos. Unfortunately!

Instead, the world will continue to stumble from one event and disaster to another for some more years. Those in power still hold some good cards in their hands. Any other system would mean that they loose or at least risk to loose control.

I have been following a specialized forum on visions and predictions for more than 10 years and read some 30+ books about this subject. And in summary, they all say something else although, of course, timing is uncertain.

To understand this one must know that there were hundreds of visions and predictions primarily in the area that used to be the Holy Roman Empire of German Nations, which consisted essentially of the (real) German territories as they were before WWI plus it's neighbors, i.e. most of today's Poland, Czechia, Northern Italy, France, Holland, Belgium and, of course, Austria as core German heartland.

Most of these predictions see a couple of years of chaos, hunger and civil war, they see the Pope having to escape and a war against the catholic church and then the "3 days of darkness" (many visions on this) and finally the new great Kaiser (emperor) who again unites most of these people and areas to a new multi-ethnic central European Reich (this word, reduced by Zionist propaganda has a very positive taste in history) that replaces the satanic national states that derived from the French revolution.

It was nationalism and Zionism that brought so much evil over Europe and the world. “Democracy” as known today being a system for few to rule the masses will be history.

Not that Anglo-Saxon or Asian readers get me wrong: this has nothing to do with German dominance or alike as you were falsely thought by the bogus history books written by war winners; fact is that around 2/3 of the people in these areas are Deutsch in the original true (non-national) sense and people of several languages (the various Germans and Slaws, the French, northern Italians and Hungarians) have very peacefully lived together mostly in mixed societies until Britain considered "Made in Germany" a threat to their world dominance in the 1880ies and when it was taken over by Zionism as their weapon. The result was these non-natural national states of today.

Several of these predictions also see Russians once more ambush German countries (German again in the true non-national sense), this time much more as a surprise and more successfully until they will finally be defeated by united European forces on German soil after having devastated it once more. I am calm as long as Putin is in power but most fearful for who comes after.

There are also many predictions about the "yellow strip", which will be impossible to cross for months and which marks a border roughly from the old purely German city of Danzig (now Poland, called Gdansk) at the Baltic sea down to the southern Adria. Russian troops will not be able to flee back nor receive support and they will eventually all die.

This is what most seers have seen more or less clearly. I don't think that I like these news! But with the knowledge of this it is certain that most fascinating times are ahead of us.

Mc

I urge China, Russia and other countries to go ahead and found a new currency and show leadership. They have the responsibility to do what they can to drag the world out of this mess, even though they didn't create it.

America and Europe need a complete reform, not just economic but also spiritual, moral, political and this will take time.

The leaders who have created this mess should seize the chance to make a big push to REFORM their character and prove themselves worthy of LEADERSHIP. The problem right now is that they do not have to offer any such proof. They operate in secret networks that rewards loyalty and not talent and shuffle around a few trillion in their shadow economy and so control the world.

Anyone who presumes to lead must show enough interest in leadership to build up their leadership skills and only when they are ready for such a task, capable of understanding what it entails and its responsibility, should they assume a position again. If they are incapable of such a reform, they should have the wisdom to recognise their limits and bow out before they cause more suffering to themselves and the rest of the world and do good in whatever way their talent lies and so start working their massive bad karma.

Luis

"Perhaps the Chinese are being too modest." LOL you think.

"If China and Russia and Germany and the Islamic countries went ahead and unilaterally announced a new currency the Satanists who rule the Anglo-French world would either have to go along with the new currency or watch their societies degenerate into chaos and revolution."

Just do it already ! The longer we wait the more time they get.
We need free energy out now anyway. Hayaku hayaku !

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